Recent Entrants into the Hall of Fame for Dysfunctional Engineer-societies.
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Sample Jobs For Engineers:

Toilet Engineer - UK

Drains Engineer - UK

Hotel Engineer - US

SKY Satellite Engineer - UK

Gas Engineer - UK

Domestic Engineer - CA

Railroad Engineer - US

MILITARY ENGINEER DRIVER - UK

Kitchen Engineer - Boston MA

Janitorial Engineer - CA

Plumbing Engineer - UK

Refuse Engineer - UK

Tantric Engineer - CA, US

Automotive Engineer - NZ

DC 3rd Class Licensed Engineers - US

Licensed Engineers - UK

Licensed Engineer - US

Licensing For Engineers:

Professional Regulation - Engineers

Licensed Boiler & Steam Engineers

Licensed Sanitary Engineers

A Standard Individual: A Licensed Engineer - UK

Education:

Qualified Professional Engineer

American Grease-Monkey - WIKIA

Stationary Engineers - US

Custodian Engineer - NY

Combat Engineers

Custodian Engineers

ACS Gas Safe Engineer Courses

Hoisting Engineer: Tower Crane Operator - CA

Career: Stationary Engineers and Boiler Operators

Operating Engineer Apprentices

DRIVER / ENGINEER

Articles:

Toilet Engineer - AU

US Army Garbage Engineers

Catering Engineers - UK

Custodial Engineer - Toilet Talk

Criminal Engineers

What US Army Engineers Do

Corps of Royal Engineers

Rags Unlimited

Mud Engineers

Farm Steam Engineers

Toe Rags by Dr IAN K BLOOR

Working Safely at Heights

Strategies for Hotel Chief Engineers
By Dr. John Hogan, CHA MHS CHE

104th Engineer's ' Bastard Company '

Crowd Control Engineers (Bouncers)

Social Engineers - (Conmen)

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Professional Engineer - UK

Sewer Cleaning Engineers - UK

Domestic Engineers - US

Qualified Professional Engineers - UK

Army Driver Engineer - AU

T.V. and Satellite Engineer - UK

Abba Loos Engineers

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Students: ' Engineering ' is NOT for You?

SCHOOL-LEAVERS: Do not rush blindly into studying ' Engineering '. It might be a BIG mistake.

IMPORTANT TRUE FACTS about ' Engineering ' that Unsuspecting Students Should Know:

' Engineering ' is not a profession as portrayed, but is recognized as a ' Trade ' in most countries.

You do not need any education to become or practice as an ' Engineer '.

In the U.S., and other countries Train Drivers, Plant Operators and Repairmen, Aircraft Mechanics, etc., and other tradespersons are licensed as ' Engineers ', whereas Graduate Engineers are not. This dispels the idea that 'Engineering' is a profession. It is mainly a ' Trade ' and is advancing rapidly as such with time.

Some Engineer-societies will not seek PROPER Regulation for Engineers, for lame or ulterior reasons.

Because of lack of PROPER Regulation, Criminal Engineers are becoming rampant.

Engineer-societies, through intransigence and lack of Public Relations Skills over the years, have allowed Technical Engineering to be absorbed into Technology with the result that ' Engineering ' is now just regarded as a ' Trade ', internationally.

Most Societies representing Engineers are self-centered, fragmented, and dysfunctional.

It is alleged that some Society Executives are living in the pockets of the Corporate.

Engineer Ethics does not exist in the true sense, and is a farce.

' Rocket Engineers ' in NASA, out of shame, classify themselves as ' Rocket Scientists '.

In general, Scientists get the credit for real Engineering achievements.

Journalists, Doctors, and other Professionals aggressively use every opportunity at their disposal to promote their cause, while Engineers remain dysfunctional and silent.

In the UK, Graduate Engineers advertise themselves as Plumbers with the approval of the so-called professional Institutions. See

The Corporate complain that there is a shortage of Engineers, so that they can import cheap labor from India and other such countries.

Some Companies sack Engineers for cheaper labor from countries such as India, and then threaten them with a total loss of severance pay if they do not train these foreign replacements.

In the U.S., vested interests, such as Universities, produce numerous reports stating that there is a shortage of Engineers, despite the contrary, as a recruitment ploy.

Engineers are becoming increasingly the butt of ' greasy-rag ' type jokes and cartoons/videos because of lack of PROPER Regulation, public education, and lack of effective Public Relations by the Societies.

Even White-Collar Companies call their Tradesmen or Women, Engineers. Sample Company List. Many of these companies have Engineers as Executives who make no effort to improve the image of Engineers. In fact, many are complicit in promoting this degrading culture. Some Engineer-employees also shamefully assist.

Engineers design the Media electronic system, TV etc., oversee the operation of it, and then allow it to be used by interested parties to degrade Engineers on an on-going basis.

When will the Societies get the message that continuing to use Professional Engineer as a top-level competency title is flogging a dead horse, without proper regulation? It will NEVER mean anything to most people as its functionality is too obscure. It is used by tradesmen and this will always be the case. If proper regulation cannot be achieved, a New International Single-word Title is the way forward. The latest INGENIOUS official professional title is ' International Professional Engineer ' (INTPE) ....... more of the same. Will 'International Licensed Professional Engineer ' be the next new Title?

Most United Kingdom (UK) Banks classify Engineers as non/semi-skilled workers. In The Royal Corps of Signals (UK), Engineers fall into the category of Soldier Trades.

The Engineer-societies do not encourage Engineers to take pride in their profession or participate in public discussion.

' Engineering ' in the 21st. Century epitomizes 200 years of lack of proper leadership and accountability, conservatism, mismanagement, incompetence, lack of vision, lack of assertiveness, by highly paid Engineer Society Executives whose main interest seems to be that of appeasing the Corporate.

Engineer-societies are in denial and living in a make-believe world and seem oblivious of the real problems of Engineers.

Then they wonder why there is a decline in the numbers studying Engineering. The solution is simple. Tackle the source of the problem aggressively and not just tinker with the symptoms.


Quote: ' Anyone can buy himself a set of ' Spanners ' and an ' Oily Rag ' and call himself an Engineer '

' Engineers Week ' or better known as ' Deception Week ' should add greatly to the unemployment queue and so to the cheap labor market.

Skills Shortage? What Skills Shortage? - - U.K  ESP  (Engineering Shortage Propaganda)

* A CALL TO SERVICE TO SAVE THE AMERICAN ENGINEER FROM CORPORATE GREED *



IEEE's Idea of Promoting Engineering
!! - The Factual Biography of Rocket Engineer, Konrad Dannenberg
(IEEE's Title is 'INSIDE TECHNOLOGY' - They never heard of ENGINEERING!). What a Promoter of Engineering!!

What can happen to Professional Engineers if they apply Ethics.......Get Sacked!
Fourteen years have elapsed and the problem is not solved. What a Profession! The ' Trade ' element in Engineering would have such a problem solved in days!

The Dumbest Engineer-societies

Becoming An Engineer

How to Be a Domestic Engineer

How One May Become a Stationary Engineer

Domestic Green Engineer - An Emerging Profession

The Dirty Profession by Professor Barbara Bagilhole

Groundbreaking course helps Swansea mum tune into new career as an Engineer !

Changes in the Engineering Profession Over 80 Years by Steve Mraz




In the UK, the options for some sort of registration, certification or licensing for Engineers have been looked at and legislation attempted several times over the last century, from statutory and mandatory licensing in various forms to a purely voluntary system. Strangely, for lame or ulterior reasons,
in the past it is the Engineering Institutions that have objected to mandatory systems. Then the Engineer-societies (Engineers) hypocritically complain! ( SEE )

In general, the Engineer-societies operate as Dictators and do not listen to their members. Engineers who complain are ignored, snubbed, and blacklisted. The NSPE (National Society of Professional Engineers) screen postings to their Forum, and will not allow any that are in any way justifiably critical of the NSPE.

* Then we have the Draper Prize, which, per the National Academy of Engineering (NAE), is recognized as one of the world's preeminent awards for engineering achievement (?). Typically, most people have never heard of it. NAE members and non-members worldwide are eligible to receive the Draper Prize.

Doctors are almost always cautious in how they talk about other doctors. Look at the governing bodies of different professions, e.g. lawyers, doctors, dentists, etc. They stick up for their members. If there is a problem failure of a structure, building, bridge, some engineers love to trash their fellow engineers showing where the engineer screwed -up......ethics at its best.

0 * The Engineering Profession could be the most respected profession on this planet, if the highly paid executives got up off their lazy behinds and do what they are paid to do, and stop hiding behind excuses.*